Sunday, December 6, 2009

Snow lotus yeast enzyme (天山雪莲)

This is an enzyme drink was recommended by my wife's colleague, Ms. J. It contains most, if not all of the characteristics of any enzyme drink (the sourness, alcohol taste due to fermentation, etc). In addition to that, the Snow Lotus plant is said to contain medicinal properties and was used for centuries by medical practitioners in China and Tibet to cure diseases and enhance health. Most of the information on the net are available in Chinese (unfortunately I can't read Chinese) though.
One fine night on a rainy weekend, we followed Ms. J to Mr. A's house to have a look on how this enzyme is fermented and harvested from the so-called yeast of the Snow Lotus. We got some yeast from Mr. A and made it at home.

Some basic tools/instruments that you need for the entire process are listed below:
1. Big plastic bucket/container (for temporarily storing the enzyme)
2. Smaller plastic bucket (for mixing brown sugar with filtered water)
3. Plastic filters
4. Cloth coffee filter (for filtering diluted brown sugar)
5. Wooden/plastic spatula (for diluting brown sugar with filtered water)
6. Rice bowls
7. Glass container with plastic, screwed on cover (for fermentation)
8. A funnel (for pouring the enzyme into glass bottles)
Below are the ingredients and procedures (Mr. A already made one for us so what we did was to harvest and make a new one):
1. Pour out the fermented yeast (enzyme) into a clear plastic container by filtering the yeast and the enzyme
2. Clean the glass container
3. The ingredients should be mixed in the following proportions depending on the size of your glass container (note that there is no strict ruling that the ratios below have to be exact, you may adjust according to preference, e.g. if you accidentally added more than 3l of water, you can add more sugar and yeast to balance up again):
  • 6 bowls of Snow Lotus yeast
  • 2 bowls of brown sugar (Thai brown sugar cost around RM28 for 7kg, preferably use Indian brown sugar at RM21 for 7kg)
  • 2.7-3 liters of filtered water
Mix 2 bowls of brown sugar with 3 liters of filtered water. The brown sugar is hard, the wooden spatula is for stirring and crushing the sugar while mixing:
The brown sugar solution will contain some dirt, pieces of cane, etc therefore a coffee filter is needed for extra filtering:
Upon finishing the above procedures, the last step is to close the lid. You need to close and tighten the lid once, open it then close and tighten in again. The fermentation process should take place is a cool, dry place away from direct sunlight for 4 days (e.g. you start on Sunday night 9pm, next harvesting day will be Thurday before 9pm) until the next harvest.
After every 5th harvest, you should rinse the yeast using filtered water. If you plan to stop the fermentation/harvesting for a short period (say you have holiday plans, etc), you can store the yeast in the refrigerator up to 3 months.


Things to note during the process are as per below:
1. The enzyme should not have any contact with metal
2. The bottle storing the enzyme should have a screwed on cap so that it can be allowed to breathe
3. Instruments should never have any contact with oil
4. The longer you ferment, the more sour the enzyme.


Things to note for consumers:
1. This drink can be taken before or after meals, more than once a day (Gastric patients should consume after meals)
2. Consumers that has coronary diseases and asthmatic patients should dilute the enzyme with water before drinking.
3. Not suitable for pregnant ladies but can be taken 3 months after labour
4. Enzyme should be drank 4 hours later after consuming tuber crops (such as potatoes)
5. This drink is some what "heaty" therefore drink lots of water. Coconut water helps as well.

Updates as of 23rd Aug 2010
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175 comments:

  1. My mum aged 70 over, she having constipation. after taking the enzyme for about 3 days, she felt her bowel soft and smooth.

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  2. I have pimples on my back , chest and shoulder. after taking the enzyme for about 1 month. all the pimples dry up eventually. I want to thank Ms.J for sharing the enzyme with me. i tried many other enzyme but this is the best;)

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  3. My husband is having high blood pressure. After monitoring for 3 week, the blood pressure has go down slightly and is maintaining.

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  4. where to get the snow lotus yeast?
    i wanted to make some too ..

    ice_winters1120@hotmail.com
    this is my email address.. hoping for your reply..
    thanks..

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  5. hi cherrieslove, will get back to you soon on this :)
    by the way... i'm curious to know how did you find my blog?

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  6. Well, i have the yeast too, if anyone need it, just email me to wongyeowsoon@gmail.com. This is my 3rd time to ferment this enzyme.I feel great while seeing the "yeast" floating up and down. It shows the energy of the yeasts are so powerful though i have yet to see any changes towards my body after drinking it. But i'll keep consuming it daily cause i know this enzyme will help keeping my body healthy.

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    1. hi big912, can i ask you how to save them if they stop floating up n down???

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  7. please give the chinese net of this snow lotus yeast enzyme cos i need to find more imformation i try very hard cant found in chinese net please email at keikoloke@yahoo.com thank you

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  8. wonderful, I was about to blog about this, me and my family are consuming this, and also friends and relatives surrounding me, it works wonderfully in all of us, just wannna know if I could hyper link your blog into mine? I don't want to copy and paste into my blog and say it is my blog. So... do I have your permission?

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  9. keikoloke >> i can't read chinese but i believe if you search using the chinese characters in the title, you should be able to find some info :)

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  10. Jane Lee >> so polite, thanks for visiting and of course... permission granted :P

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  11. wlst, thanks for your sharing...
    can i check with you what is the size of bowl?
    i try to do it recently...

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  12. hi bellezza, i used plastic rice bowls, you know those that are usually used in chinese restaurants? :)

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  13. Oic... i did it on 30 june, so tomorrow can try it.. ^^

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  14. wlst, after filtering the yeast and the enzyme, we need rinse the yeast before make the new one? tq... ^^

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  15. i just got my first batch of enzyme and harvested recently. The set was given to me by a good friend and with insturctions in Mandarin. I googled for snow lotus enzyme and found you here and thanks for the instructions in english. I didn't know the enzyme cannot be in contact w metal as i used whisk to whisk and melt the sugar.
    thks for the tips..

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  16. hi bellezza, you just need to rinse every 5th time, no need every time :)

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  17. hi coffeesncookies, glad that this site is helpful :)

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  18. HELP!!! I kept fermenting the yeast for 8 days and they all look dead now. I have no experience. What should I do now?

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  19. hi Guo Sheng, i have not tried fermenting that long therefore unable to help, are you able to get new yeast? most probably spoiled already...

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  20. may i ask?? what are the functions of this drink??

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  21. Hi wlst! Today I discovered some yeasts are still alive and so I immediately made some new sugar solution. I took out those bubbling floating yeasts and cleaned them with fresh water before putting them into the new solution. I will let you know if there is any progress. Hope I will succeed.

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  22. Hi wlst, Alison here. I have chinese notes for the snow lotus enzyme. In the notes it says 500 gm brown sugar, 1.5L water & 3 bowls snow lotus yeast. Is it similar with yours? Where can I get Thai sugar at RM28 - 7kg?

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  23. Hi .rui.wen.,
    it's supposed to have all the function of a general enzyme drink. in addition to that, since it's made from snow lotus yeast, it should provide some other healing functions. you need to search the net one this as most of the info are in Chinese...

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  24. Hi Mr.Foo (Alison),
    the recipe you have looks pretty much similar, I was told as long the ratios are correct, the amount does not matter that much.
    You can get it from Chinese Mini markets, like Lim Trading in SS15 Subang, etc

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  25. Hi wlst Thanks for your info.

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  26. Hi wlst Alison here, sorry to disturb you again. Did you heard any news saying that this enzyme should not drink daily? It should have a break then continue. Heard that dont' let our body immune system used to this enzyme "like drug" If continues, body system will not function well in health.

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  27. Hi wlst! My yeasts are alive and I am still working hard to get my next harvest. I discovered the previous ratio of different components was wrong and I corrected it yesterday. One question: can I use other types of sugar? The colour of the solution I made yesterday is quite light, although it is definitely TAIKOO sugar cane sugar.

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  28. I think this snow lotus enzyme is also called kefir. There are a lot of write ups in the web on kefir.

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  29. Hi, wlst. I have been brewing water kefir for a few months. Recently, I came to notice that my grains seem to be shrinking in size, although they still multiply with each harvest. My friend thinks that it is my mistake to use RO water to dissolve the brown sugar. To him, the water is too pure, devoid of minerals and the RO process does not eliminate all the chlorine! From your experience, what is your opinion? Thanks.

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  30. Hi wlst, I found a lot of information about "snow lotus yeast", which is also called "kefir grain". It is better to use non-purified sugar because it carries more minerals of different types benefiting the growth of yeasts. Last time I used the very good TAIKOO cane sugar and I could not get the result I wanted.

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  31. some said those ppl have operation before cannot drink, any1 can help to clarify on this? Thanks :-)

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  32. hi,
    Is this enzyme suitable for diabetics since so much brown sugar is used?
    Can milk be used as I read kefir grains use milk?
    Thank you for sharing.

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  33. Hi Guo Sheng,
    sorry, unable to comment as I've never tried other types of sugar. I believe the color does not matter as long as you are using Thai brown sugar.

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    1. Thanks for all the useful information
      Can I get the yeast from you ? If not where can I get it ?

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  34. Hi alena tan and penang999,
    maybe you can check and confirm with the one who gave you the yeast on whether diabetic and patients just under gone operation can consume?
    do post the answer here as well so that i can update the blog :)

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  35. Hi all,
    My friend is sending the enzyme drink for a 'sugar check', when i get the results i will post it here for all. But my friend a bit fussy, she says it has to be under 'controled conditions', so she will only test them after brewing the 3rd batch in lab. so gotto wait.

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  36. May i know, got hepatitis people can drink thihs or not?

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  37. This drink has 'low sugar content' and high acid.

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  38. In other words diabetics can drink and because it s acidic, it s better to drink after meals.

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  39. While searching for snow lotus, I found your blog. It is so informative. Thank you for sharing.

    Your Photo 1 & 2, shows a lot of snow lotus floating on the surface but for mine, the float is just one layer. It has broken holes on the surface on the 2nd day and on the 3rd day, lesser snow lotus floating.

    May I have your comment on such situation?

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  40. Hi Purity,
    that photo was taken 1 day before harvesting, would like some info from you:
    1. what kind of container are you using as you mentioned that you are able to see the surface?
    2. where did you put your container during the fermentation process?

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  41. Hi wlst,

    Thank you for taking time to reply.

    1. I am using the same container like yours; but the snow lotus is not float as much as what you have. On the 3rd day (1day before harvest), there might be only little snow lotus floating on the water level. The photo (http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/tt133/ammietay/IMAG0068.jpg) shall explain what I meant. This photo taken 1day before harvest.

    May I have your comment on this?


    2. I am doing the fermentation in my office, size of a single room, air-con is on during office hours and off when I am back home. Temperature changes might affect the fermentation huh ??

    Thank you

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  42. Hi Purity,

    from past experience, there are a number of factors, one will be temperature, another might be the water that you used?
    your office should be ok, assuming there's no contact between the jar and sunlight?
    as for water, we are using Diamond filtered water, i have friends using normal filters, results are slightly different but not much...
    some other things that we can think off, is your container's cover tight enough? also from your photo, what's the water to yeast ratio you are using? looks like not enough water?

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  43. Hi wlst,

    First of all, thank you for your reply.
    The jar has no direct contact with sunlight, the temperature factor shall be eliminated.
    I guess water might be the factor, I am using SeaMaster RO water where it is the only filtered water I have in the office. Do you think RO Water might be the cause?
    The formula I got from my friend is 6 bowl of snow lotus, 2 bowl of brown sugar, 2 liter of water. (This friend is using this formula for a long time). I realize that the formula is different compare with yours. What is your comment??

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  44. Hi Purity,
    There is a post above by Lew mentioning something about using RO water. Though we can't confirm whether that is the cause or not. What kind of water is your friend using?

    Your recipe looks OK as the recipe given to me is an estimate as well :)

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  45. Pixie posted above saying that his/her friend will send for lab test. I wonder any update on the matter. Many thanks.

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  46. Hi there,

    I got to know your blog from Gina's page. I was wondering is there any chance Mr A or you perhaps is able sell this enzyme to me, like one container? If it is possible how to contact you?Really appreciate it, thanks in advance.

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  47. Hi. I was googling about snow lotus yeast enzymes and found your blog. It's really a very well written article on snow lotus. Like you, I don't know how to read mandarin, so I was glad that I found your blog. I've written some testimonials on my blog and link the making to your blog. I hope it's ok with you. Sorry for not asking permission earlier.

    I was wondering if we can find the snow lotus raw - from the medicinal shop? Then, other readers could possibly just buy them from shops.

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  48. I am not scientist, nor expert. Base on the information I got from wikepedia, "snow lotus" and "kefir" are two different things, though both are good for health. This blog is actually talking about "kefir" and not "snow lotus". In chinese herb shop, u can actually find the dried flower / seed of "snow lotus", but I am not too sure whether it can be used to produce enzymes. My guess is that it is more for making tea like those rose tea, etc.

    Below the links from wikipedia, just in case you wish to know more:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saussurea
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kefir

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  49. http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html

    The original term used for kefir grains and kefir by the tribes-folk of Caucasus. The Grains of The Prophet Mohamed. The Drink of the Prophet respectfully. [1] Alternate names for milk kefir-grains today: Tibetan Mushrooms or tara, yogurt plant, yogurt mushroom. Yogurt Fungus or Snow Lotus [China, Asia], Kin-okoor yogoot-tane-oko [Japan]. Tibetanischer Pilz [German]. Galodium [Romania or Polish?]. kefyras [Lithuanian]. Julia in USA named a batch of kefir grains which she procured from me here in Australia, Great Whites of Oz. Other names Herbert [Nhem, South Australia] et al [And Others].

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  50. MYBIZ MARKETING - the results came back was low sugar (diabetics ok to drink) n high acid ( ie like yoghurt) It was a simple test.

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  51. Hi wlst,
    Check with many friends on the water issue, realizing that RO and alkaline water cannot be used as the snow lotus may die in the water mentioned above. My friend uses Amway filter and her snow lotus is doing well.
    By the way, I tried your formula yesterday, the snow lotus move up and down actively, more active than what I have done with my friend's formula. I like it very much. Thank you for sharing with me.

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  52. Hi friends! I have a question: since the enzyme contains a little amount of alcohol, is it possible to get rid of the alcohol by any means? For instance, can I boil the enzyme so that the alcohol evaporates before drinking? I am a Buddhist and I really have to solve this "alcohol" problem. Thanks.

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  53. Guo Sheng,

    My personal opinion is better don't. This is just like damaging the vitamins of fruit and vege during cooking.

    If you wish to reduce the level of alcohol, try NOT to cover the lid when making enzyme. Just use a clean cloth to cover the top of the container and tie it with rubber band. I have tried it and it helps. I got to know this from the link below:

    http://blog.yam.com/BlogIndex.php?BLOG_ID=Enzyme&CATEGORY_ID=1468723

    Regards.

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  54. hi wlst, where is Lim Trading SS15, Subang? Is there specific landmark that i may locate it? Thank you so so much! Lee

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  55. Hi KC, thank you for your reply. I'll try your method.

    I have another question: how should I keep my grains if I don't want to make another bottle of enzyme so immediately? Can I just put them in the fridge? Or should I wash them and drain them before I put them in the fridge?

    Another important question: I am from Hong Kong and so far I can't find the right kind of sugar here. The sugar I have been using is brought to me by my friend from Malaysia. Any suggestions please?

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  56. Guo Sheng,

    You can wash and keep. Or keep first, when you want to make again, then wash and make.

    If you can find "red sugar" (Gula Merah), it can be used too. Not necessary sugar from Thai or India. What sugar do you use?

    I think maybe can use pure honey, have NOT tried yet as I need to know what should be the right portion to put.

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  57. hi Guo Sheng,
    I use "red sugar" (Gula Merah) which I bought from Tesco Penang RM5.99/1.25kg(packing under Tesco). You can try search from Tesco H.K. chain of stores.

    Previously I used brown sugar which is cheaper. There are more movements using red sugar.
    I notice less impurities in red sugar.

    You can ask your friend to post to you but postage is quite expensive.

    btw do i need to keep this enzyme drink in a fridge?

    Anybody from Penang who would like to get this yeast/drink can obtain from me FOC. Bottles not included.

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  58. Thank you KC & Mike!

    Red sugar by Tesco? I am really not sure whether I can find it in HK. I tried to use some other HK sugar but didn't succeed, or the result was not satisfactory. Expensive too!

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  59. Hi LisleyArt,
    Do you know where SS15 Maybank is? it's a corner shop located at the row behind Maybank, just opposite the SS15 market.
    Or... try looking for SS15 AffinBank, Lim Trading, is just a few shops away :)

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  60. oh dear, thank you so much for your map tips ;P.

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  61. thank you for sharing the method, is very successful, I have harvest for the 2nd times already....

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  62. who live in Sabah, Kota Kinabalu, can get the yeast from me...

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    1. Hi Cecilia,
      I live in KK. Would like to try the water kefir.

      Do you still have any?

      chenmikehk@yahoo.com

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  63. thank you Mr. A , Mrs. E and tnx GOD for the enzyme, it helps a lot to everyone, here in manila, phils.Im praying for all of you who extend a great help to cure sickness specially to hopeless people. tnx.tnx.tnx... GOD BLESS

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  64. hi,wlst.
    glad to found ur blog. so usefull.thanks


    cecillia,
    i live in kota kinabalu too. how to get the seed from u?

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  65. Zerina,

    you can e-mail to me your phone number, I can meet you in Likas, I pickup my kids from school in Likas every afternoon.my e-mail address is
    ceciliapang69@hotmail.com

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  66. wlst, my friend supplied me with some seeds and i'm all set to make this enzyme but unfortunately she told me that i've got the wrong kind of brown sugar.. Her recipes is supposed to be brown sugar from the indian stores.. I bought CSR soft brown sugar (gula merah lembut). Will it affect the result of the enzymes?

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  67. Anyone need the yeast from Bukit Jalil / Sri Petaling / Puchong / KL (Malaysia) can email me to:
    june.ng123@yahoo.com

    My experiences as below:
    1) Using RO / Diamond / Amway water is fine (My yeast are very active till now) - As long as clean purified water will do.
    2) Using INDIA brown sugar only. No others - I mean is the type of look very "dark and dirty" but yet creat the best result.
    3) Ways to keep the yeast - DO NOT clean it when you are not ferment - Direct get if after harvest and store in plastic container and keep in fridge (DO NOT frozen).

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  68. hi,
    would like ro share new experience using organic raw sugar cane bought at jusco Penang (RM6.90) product of Brazil.

    The colour of drink when harvested resembles that of honey.

    One major difference is that of alcohol content.
    Compared to previous brown sugar where my face becomes red due to alcohol content, using organic i did not feel the alcohol effect.

    I guess this is suitable for those opting for non alcohol drink.
    It is also only slightly sour compared to previous harvest using brown sugar.

    I found that there is totally no impurities using organic sugar.
    U can still use cloth filter but nothing is retained.

    One more thing I notice is that the floating & sinking action starts much earlier(after 1 to 2 hrs) compared to brown sugar.

    best regards

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  69. thank you for sharing Mike Chuah, I will try it after is coming harvest on Sunday...

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  70. I started drink this since this afternoon, felt dizzy at the first time. The second time i drank felt ok already. I will continue and hopes to improve my health

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  71. Hi all,
    was a way for a month, glad to see so many comments :)
    thanks and glad that you all find this blog useful :)
    wish everyone good health and happiness!

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  72. here is picture link for comparison between brown and organic raw sugar cane.

    btw there is still a little alcohol content using organic raw sugar cane

    http://s528.photobucket.com/albums/dd330/home2net/?action=view&current=snowlotusworganicrawsugarcane.jpg

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  73. Thanks for sharing the informations, it is really useful to me for doing a research.
    Actually my family also drink it since few weeks ago, those feedbacks are all in positive.

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  74. Hi, I am staying in Hong Kong. Can anyone tell me where can I purchase this enzyme? Please advise. My email add : salleykok@gmail.com

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  75. anyone interested in obtaining the yeast seeds? Subang Jaya/Petaling Jaya. email me at marynggh@yahoo.com

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  76. I am a new comer to preparing this enzyme drink. It works well for me and I used the 2 bowls lotus (chinese rice bowl), 500gm India red sugar, and 1.5L filtered water.
    But I am just a bit worried about the cleanliness of the final product drink. The gula merah is so dirty looking, and we are not supposed to boil it????? Is the enzyme drink safe to drink continuously? I thought of boiling the dissolved sugar solution and cooling it before mixing with the lotus yeast, anyone can commend on this?

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  77. That why it is recommeded to filter the dissolved gula merah. Now that you have done it, you can filter the enzyme drink when it is ready to "harvest".

    You are supposed to stop for one month after continuously drinking for 2 months.

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  78. 2. The bottle storing the enzyme should have a screwed on cap so that it can be allowed to breathe

    can i use a bottle that have a screwed on cap that is metal instead of plastic?

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  79. I used organic molasses instead of the Indian red sugar. The harvest is really good and taste better ,sweeter too.

    It is cleaner as very little residue is being left when filtered. I think it is cleaner and easier to use organic sugar. But the cost is a little more, as 1kg costs RM12.

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  80. I know I may get back fired by posting this. The least I can do here is to save those surrounded you which already got the side effect. Sky mountain snow lotus has side effect. It suitable to grow above 0 deg C., it will grow in our stomach over time. It is different from Ice mountain snow lotus that will died once above 0 deg C. The person will have bloated and hard stomach with lots of wind. The remedy is take 1 sachet bamboo salt (must be Hai-O direct selling) +100ml water every morning empty stomach. I swear that I'm not Hai-O marketeer, purely out of compassion I'm relaying this. So far already 5 cases I come across. Worst part was people do not believe it because there are far too many testimonials. Please pass this remedy to those who already got this side effect. After consuming bamboo salt, the person might have diarrhea to pass it out. Amitofoh. Sadhu to all.

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  81. add on. During remedy period, avoid yam, reduce sweet or avoid sweet stuff, anything could possible fremented like milk, avoid it. Sadhu.

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  82. hi komg,
    u have very interesting post which i hope u will share your source of your post. it's ok even in chinese as anybody can now translate using google translator.
    thanks to google.

    btw there are too many bamboo salt on the market now. hai-o may not be the best.

    also your post is the opposite of what everybody is experiencing.

    no bloated & hard stomach with lots of wind.
    in fact all the winds is expelled out.

    btw KC,
    can u share your source of
    "You are supposed to stop for one month after continuously drinking for 2 months. "

    thank you

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  83. First was a friend over a dining table mentioned he introduced a friend to a sinseh, the sinseh is my close friend. The friend got the side effect and prescribed with bamboo salt. The sinseh happened to be the same sinseh who cured me in 1999, I was paralyzed then. The topic triggered much because I was promoting snow lotus heavily over the dining table.

    2nd time was last sat, 4 are from same family. 4 all had the side effect. This trigger 2nd alarm. I didn't ask how long they had been consuming. I bounced to them, as I was bringing a patient to meet the sinseh on the same day. The mother is the one who introduce snow lotus to her family, she said the exact of what you have been saying here...how good and miracle this snow lotus is, and how many testimonial. Let's put it this way, we are no doctor, neither we are practioner to say this medication is better than other. Hai-O Bamboo salt cured this is a fact, a fact is a fact. I reemphasize here again, I'm not hai-o direct selling sponsor.

    If you ask me for sources, I don't have. By the time if this is in the articles or newspaper,probably too late. Sense of guiltiness will lie on you once the truth revealed. I had posted this, guess I have my selfishness that I don't wish to sit in with the guiltiness. I'm relieved now, your choice, whether to carry on as non practioners to carry on promoting this even there is a chance of 1% people out there got side effect. Or your choice to get to know people who has side effect, help them with remedy.

    I fear of karma, anything wrong I posted here, I had created a cause that I would face the consequences. I'm willing to face it after what I bounced onto sat.

    I'm not here to convince, please pass on the remedy for those of your friends who had the side effects.

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  84. hi kong,
    It is very good to share your experience & that of your friends.
    At least this is the 1st time i hear it.

    Is this side effect you are saying is
    "The person will have bloated and hard stomach with lots of wind." as i understand from your post?

    Sometimes there will be reactions or side effects as Kong put it but my view is that almost natural herbs/remedies when consumed will have all kind of reactions depending on individual health.

    Thank you Kong again for sharing & hopefully more people with side effects/reactions will share their experience.

    best regards

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  85. Mike,

    I got the infor (to stop one month after consuming 2 months) from the few pieces of paper than guide me how to make the Snow Lotus.

    Just to share my point of view on Kong's comment. I believe we need to practice the art of "balancing" in life. If we over-consume the good, it will become bad (because the body become relying on it and lost it initial capability, just like Tiger in cage).

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  86. No, it is not the vertigo reaction as termed in scientific term. One clear difference is when you press on the person stomach, it is very hard as if a huge growth inside unlike wind. Vertigo reaction took placed generally at the beginning stage of consuming. This is certainly not.

    "balancing" sound simple, one must be a practioner to know when you need to balance, when you need to discharge, when you need to accumulate.

    I don't believe in chinese medication until it cured me. Since then I read, "wang di ne chin", " long peng' chow mu' and so forth. I learnt from virtue practioner. Chinese medication has a history of 4500 years, even virtue practioner may not be able to crack all the codes, what's more we are not. There are millions of plants out there, so call "hot remedy". Bottom line we are not expert. So called expert must have remedy. Hear say is dangerous.

    Simply, chinese medication categorized into 5 elements, so does our body. This 5 elements again correspond with sour, sweet, spicy, bitter and salty. There are many phrases like like "hot internal cold external", wiseverse or even neutral. The practioner would need to determine the cause of the illness before prescribe. eg. some critical illness need "poison against poison". Or simple to say, he/she needs to determine to reduce/pass out the excessive elements; balancing it; or fighting against it. Fire kills water; wood would reduce the water element, both function to treat water elements, which method to use, we are not expert. The practioner knows the point when the patient need to stop consuming the remedy, he also knows whether his prescription is neutral or if it has side effect in long run. We ain't doctor here.

    I had accumulated 3 hand writtened books (I need to remember and hand writtened, this is how elderly practioner teach! You are not allowed to write down notes, when he shares. No photocopy, all must be handwrittened). They include remedy to cure cancer, I dare not pass it out, because I'm not professional in that line. Except those confirmed neutral remedy. Neutral means no matter how much you consume, no side effect in long run like alfalfa. Bottom line here is how do you know your balancing point? This is also the reason why I don't do direct selling though some neutral product I do use them.

    This is the last time I posted blog here. I fear of karma, writer faces severe karma because the cause only ended when the circulations stopped. One word wrongly writtened, it is the cause that I had planted. I asked for pardon if my post disturb your feeling and for any wrong word used here.

    My email is ceceliaksb@gmail.com for those who wants to know where to get the bamboo salt. I remember I saw it was display at a vegetarian restaurant in taman sea. I don't know the owner, I can drive there to check out the number.

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  87. can it still be drink after it become sour/"alcohol smell"/bubbles produced???

    how long can it be drink when it's put in the refrigerator? is there a time limit??

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  88. Hi,
    I have the video of Snow lotus yeast enzyme (天山雪莲) preparation, interested pls email me at davidjerk@gmail.com

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  89. hi gen,
    It is better to discard after it become sour.
    You can put in fridge & I am of the opinion it can last a very long time.
    I don't know why u want to store it for a long time.
    i normally finish it in less than 2 weeks.

    I have drink it for a few months now.
    The result is I don't have anymore constipation problems & cholesterol level have been reduced.

    I have been observing my colon waste everyday.
    It is very oily compared to if you don't consume snow lotus.

    The only explanation i can think of is that snow lotus do detoxify our colon walls & that causes our waste to pass out easily.

    btw can David post a link here to your video,
    hopefully can benefit newbies.
    thanks

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  90. Hi Mike,
    How do I contact u? Email pls? Tq

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  91. hi David,
    Is the video made by you and is it available on Youtube or other public channels?
    If you like to share with everyone here, kindly send the video to my email (888okk at gmail dot com).
    Pls put a comment here once that is done so that i can read the email.
    With your permission I can upload the video if that has not been done.
    Thanks.

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  92. Anyone want snow lotus yeast, you can email me to: carol1798@hotmail.com to arrange date and time. We can meet at The Summit Subang USJ.

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  93. Hi all,
    This is an interesting blog. I took this tibicos juice or snow lotus for about 2 months now. Both my sisters and I have hard, bloated stomachs but not my husband and friends. So what Kong said is true. I guess some people have it some don't. I stopped for a day or two and then continued. So far I don't have the bloated stomach anymore but my sister is still having it.

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  94. Foong Ching, it is true, it works differently and vary as our body structure, health conditions are different. Just keep in track.

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  95. Hi, can a colon cancer patient drink this??

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  96. Colon/colorectal cancer frequencies varies around the world. It is common in the Western world and is rare in Asia and Africa. In countries where the people have adopted WESTERN diets, the incidence of colorectal cancer is increasing.
    As to whether colon cancer patient can drink this, my opinion is why not?
    Basically the Snow Lotus plant is said to contain medicinal properties and was used for centuries by medical practitioners in China and Tibet to cure diseases and enhance health.
    It's inexpensive & only involves minimal work/things to buy.
    You have nothing much to lose.
    The pros definitely outweighs the
    cons.
    best of luck to you.
    Wishing everyone a happy Lunar NEW Year !

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  97. Hi, can I get mineral water to do it?

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  98. After going through all these posts, I find that it's good for us to communicate better in such a blog, with this product. If only we can pass our comment immediate, just below any new topics, it may benefit or enhance this blog further. As for now, to answer or to look for each individual respond, we have to look "high & low" for that person to see all their post.
    Buddhist believers should be safe enough to consume this product, for we do not add in any "wine biscuits" during its fermentation. Moreover, only Buddhist Monks should not be drinking any alcohol, for they are governed by the rules of their monastery, & they had really swear for it.
    As for Miss Cecelia Kong's post, she's just trying to tell us from her own experiences, & her concern is worried for those, which had abuse or misuse this product. Anything in this world has got its pros & cons, like Yin & Yang, so it would be natural to have any side effects. I'm most grateful & thankful for such an information to warn us from Miss Kong, so that we can be more careful while consuming this product.

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  99. What i understand is : consume 20 days and stop for 10 days

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  100. i am from singapore, any idea where to get the brown sugar here?

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  101. Hi! Sofia,

    My friend told me can get it from Cosway.

    From AB

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  102. I bought the indian brown sugar/jaggery sugar at KL indian store for RM7/kg..so expensive. Which store did you buy yr sugar from cos its so much cheaper. Also, i drink the enzyme mixed with water the whole day cos i put it in a bottle..have been drinking for 2wks now. Is this ok? Or better to drink it at night undiluted?

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  103. Hi Sofia,

    U can get the lotus yeast from me. It's FOC. I m located in Hougang.

    chn.amanda@gmail.com

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  104. will the tibicos die? I kept them in the fridge
    for two weeks, and i resume to culture it; but it does not turn out as before. No bubbles on the top layer, no tibicos moving up and down, and the end result - the tibicos drink - tastes very much different from what i did before. It taste like a fermented drink; it smell one kind, is it spoilt? I am using the same meterials and same method that i used before...

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  105. Hi Sin, i think you need to take them out of the water, rinse them and lightly sieve them (like what you do when you cook spaghetti) before keeping them in the fridge...

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  106. is it that floating on top are spoilt?

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  107. Kindly advice me as I made a batch of snow lotus enzyme this monday in my horlick bottle and on Thursday morning i found the top layer of enzyme full of white fungi so i threw it all away. I was wondering if this were to happen again, can i reuse the yeast after rinsing them throughly in water & re-make a fresh batch using them again or i shouldn't?

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  108. Hi, Lissy, I think you have to use a new batch
    of yeast. I did culture one batch, and the end
    result is not as I expected; the smell is horrible, and i throw them all away...I rinse a new batch of new yeast, and start culturing, I do not know how will it comes out...just wait and see...

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  109. Thanks, Sin. Anyone has extra batch of yeast to give away to me? I live near Bandar Mahkota Cheras..i can pick it up if anybody's willing to giveaway some to me. Thanks all.

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  110. Can a person with duodenum ulcer drink this?

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  111. HI ,
    I am staying in Penang Island. I am interested to obtain this drink. Can anyone contact me. My email add: jv_kaur@hotmail.com
    Thank you

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  112. I'd love to try out this enzyme. Anyone has extra yeast for me to try making this enzyme? Pls email me at janiya.tan@gmail.com.
    Thanks so much for these informaition sharing.

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  113. Today, one of my friend told me that she heard this snow lotus enzyme is poisonous. Can anyone tell me this is true or false? Would appreciate it if anyone can prove it? I am worry now as I have drink it and pass it on to many of my friends...I hope to get the answer!!!

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  114. if anyone wants to know, snow lotus yeast is also known as kefir grain. u can search it in the internet. u can also read about it's health benefits. pls do not just listen to rumours or from those people who is not well informed. tq.

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  115. if anybody want the yeast pls email me at lobbylim@gmail.com.

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  116. hi wlst, may I link and post your blog out?
    It's really useful and infomatic :)

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  117. Hi Cynthia,
    no worries, go ahead :)

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  118. Hi Cynthia,
    no worries, feel free to link :)

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  119. Dear wlst,

    I would like to learn from you whether these snow lotus can be delivered to Paris from Kuala Lumpur? My mother has these snow lotus yeast and she has been making the enzyme drinks. I would to consume these enzymes too. However, I live in Paris, France.

    Was is the best way to send the yeast to me?

    Looking forward to your reply.

    -Joane-

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  120. You can just use a ziplock bag and send it in a bubble pack. Have sent all over using these 2 bags.

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  121. I heart about snow lotus about 2 months ago, it was in capsule which can be bought at chinese drug store. I got the snow lotus enzyme from friend and she tough me how to prepare. 500gm of organic brow sugar, 1.5 liter of mineral water about 300gm of fermented snow lotus and ferment for 3days (72 hours)in a glass jar.

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  122. Hi
    My mother is 70 yrs and hv stiff joints.Is this drink available in Penang? My email: peter.joshua70@yahoo.com.my
    Tq

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  123. Hi all,

    My HD is currently suffering fr high liver emyze, someone recommended him to take this. He took for a few n the liver emyze index dropped significantly accordingly to doctor's report. However, I am still concerned about the side effect. Would appreciate very much if any one can comment on this.

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  124. Hi lc and All
    From the above blogs and my own experience:-
    1) There is alcohol in the enzyme from the frementation process - people with liver problem advisable to take small amount and flush alcohol with water after consuming. I supposed consuming enzyme after food will also help absorbed some of the alcohol.
    2) The enzyme tasted sour and a blogger tested it for high acid. Ms Kong and others also reported cases of bloated stomach - therefore taking small amount of enzyme after food would help those with gastric and bloated stomach problems. This is my experience from taking pills that caused gastric problems.

    Good luck All

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  125. I'm still curious on this snow lotus. Did anyone do experiment on this snow lotus? Is it harmful to human body if we drink it everyday? Any side effects? Anyone can prove it? Please do not just read from internet about its health benefits. Test it and prove it before you drink!

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  126. Anyone like to try making this enzyme from snow lotus. I have little extra to give away. email me allenvoon@gmail.com (Cheras Selatan area)

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  127. i made mine 3rd batch and seems like it wouldn't grow anymore... but the top part is like usual, a lot of bubbles... just not growing. is it spoilt?

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  128. Actually snow lotus is found high up in the mountains, and it is very costly. I think what everyone refer to here is kefir grains. Plse google it. Think the sugar: grains:water proportions is a little questionable. Didn't anyone feel the sugar used is too much? I understand that approx 4 tbsp sugar to 1 litre water and 1.5 tbsp kefir grains. Anyone care to comment?

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  129. Hi! All,I'm currently at Singapore, anyone needs brown sugar? I have 5 packages of brown sugar, i used to make this snow lotus before, and I am not making it anymore, anyone interested, you may email me at abbysarawak1968@yahoo.com I'm giving away for free.

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  130. anyone have lotus yeast for me ,i stay at jurong singapore..pls help i need it !!
    thks
    my email tayjanejane@yahoo.com.sg

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  131. hi, anyone please advise do i need to store the snow lotus enzyme in fridge? Thx. my email is shallytby@gmail.com

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  132. hi, my name is mike yeow,could anyone advise how I could get some snow lotus in K.L.or Cheras area? Thanks
    My email is yeowmike@gmail.com

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  133. Hi, Anyone who can help me get snow lotus in Illinois, U.S.? Need to try it to help with cancer.
    Thanks.
    Terry
    dtaderhold@comcast.net

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  134. Hi, has anyone got some snow lotus yeast (kefir grain) to spare me? Mine all got spoilt. I stay in Kuching. tks

    My email is benni970410@gmail.com

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  135. hi could you give me some? my friend's mum have cancer and is trying to get some.please email me at wee_lilin@hotmail.com.

    thank you so much

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  136. could anyone advice where can I get some snow lotus in Melaka so that I can start fermenting the enzyme for my consumption?

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  137. can anyone advice me where to get the giant glass jar as shown as the pictures above? its been months ive been scouting, and my snow lotus is still laying in my fridge :(

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    1. hi there, i got them from PJ Old Town, there are a lot of shops selling kitchenware, etc, good luck :)

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  138. Where can I acquire the Snow Lotus Yeast? Please advice. My email is francisjonas.yap@gmail.com

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  139. hi Francis,
    you have to state which city/town you are currently residing so that anyone(nearest to you)who would like to give can contact you.
    best regards

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  140. Hi my kids are 4 and 6 years old. Is it ok for them to take snow lotus enzyme?

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  141. Hello, anyone with water kefir grains to spare? Pls reach me at shoppnging(at)yahoo(dot)com. Many thanks!

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  142. Hi. May I know how many continuous days can we consume the snow lotus water before taking a break? How long should the break be before restarting the cycle of drinking the snow lotus water?

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  143. I would also like to know if it is safe to store the filtered snow lotus water in plastic bottles (big mineral water bottles) in the fridge for daily consumption. This is because I noticed that all websites I browse through use glass bottles to store the final product.

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  144. i have try my 1,2,3 pot of yeast all failure until a nice guy gave lot of supply and i test in diffrent way . i found up the solution is temperature, 1st put a pot with lotus etc in a bucket of water n a little ice not to cold or the lotus will not do the jop. and wallaa my yeast rise bubble like a angel.

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  145. Can anyone give me some snow lotus yeast. We can meet at new world park burma road. Pls email me at lau_beekee@yahoo.com
    Tks in advance

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  146. Anyone know where to buy Thai Gula Merah Jaggery Powder? Please email me at weiyang_30@live.com

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  147. Can anyone give me some snow lotus yeast? I am living in Singapore. Pls email me at casalige99@yahoo.com.sg

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  149. I live in Singapore. Can anyone give me some water kefir? Please email me at yggep1188@yahoo.com.sg. Thanks in advance

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  150. Hi wlst,

    I am from Cheras, can you give me some water kefir?

    My email address is celyn1011@yahoo.com

    Thank you

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  151. Hi, can I get this from you?

    I am from penang, can you please kindly give me some water kefir?

    My email address is inchwear@yahoo.com

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  152. ....... very good Blog, as there is very little information available on this subject.
    I got the enzyme from the local monk in my village here in Thailand and are up for the 5th harvest.
    Is it possible to get a link to the website which has the last two images of the booklet shown in this Blog or a high resolution scan of the booklet ?
    I would very much appreciate if wlst or someone else could provide me with a link or the images .......

    P.S.
    Is it ok for people with diabetes to drink this ?
    I'm asking because I was thinking to pass on the enzyme to a friend who has diabetes, but I'm not sure if that's a good idea because of the high sugar content.

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    1. Hi Cheng, the last 2 images were passes around quite some time back so we are not sure who originally had those images... we uploaded the images as it is, no resizing.

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  153. Hi, can anyone give some water kefir grains ?

    My email is jennykac@gmail.com.

    Thank you

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  154. Hello.. im nurwashiah..

    whr can i get snow lotus?? im intrested.. its for my parents.. ive been looking for it and unable to get get anywhr in singapore..

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    1. I've excess Snow lotus mushroom to share. Anybody interested can email me at shengeducation@gmail.com. I can pass to you at Tampines MRT. Yeo

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  155. I've excess Snow lotus mushroom to share. Anybody interested can email me at shengeducation@gmail.com. I can pass to you at Tampines MRT. Yeo

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  156. Dear brothers and sisters,

    I am searching Snow lotus yeast for long time already but failed. Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee, could anybody can provide me so that I can make my own.......
    I am stay in JB, Johor. Please email me if you can provide me.....
    my email = phitatang2003@gmail.com

    Regards,
    Tang

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  157. yeosan

    ive email u.. hope to hear frm u ..

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  158. Anyone interested in the snow lotus yeast can contact me at sweesiek@gmail.com
    SS Lee

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  159. Can also give dried water kefir to people from overseas. Please contact me at sweesiek@gmail.com.
    SS Lee from Singapore

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  160. Hai all, i'm a new comer. i'm from Borneo, Indonesia.

    I wanna ask: is it brown sugar same as PALM SUGAR? the color is brown too but it's quite expensive (Rp35.000/kg or around RM11.30/kg). we call it GULA AREN not made of sugar cane and it's not red sugar. Palm sugar is allowed for cancer's patients.

    And exactly, the harvesting need 3 days (72hours) or 4 days (96hours)?. Most of the information i get from my friends in Indonesia is 3 days only. thanks all for replying.

    Any good testimony from patients who drink this enzyme? GBU all

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  161. im giving away snow lotus .. if u intrested do let me knw.. email me at nurwashiah@gmail.com.. we can exchange hp no so i can show u my enzyme..

    can call me wawa im frm singapore staying in east ..

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  162. Whr can I get snow lotus yeast? Im from kuching sarawak.my email mifong84@gmail.com

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  163. Does anyone have some of these snow lotus crystals to share? I'll be in Singapore in February. I want to make it daily with fresh cane juice or coconut water. My email is jacqui.rao@gmail.com I would love to hear from someone with some healthy, happy crystals!

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  164. Im doing my assignment regarding this product.. can i have some of it so i can proceed with my assignmet??? can anyone share with me. Im staying in KL. please drop me a message.. sookhan92@gmail.com

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  165. where can we get the snow lotus from melbourne

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